also, having spoken with both parents about the shitshow that is Lucy, we are all in full agreement that Luc Besson and the writers did absolutely zero research on Taiwan and that the movie is not worth our time or money.
like dad told me: they didn’t realize…
Actually I am going to support this movie.
How many movies are female lead this year? How many? Answer: not a whole lot. This bothers me!
And yes, it is important that countries aren’t whitewashed but I’m okay with fictional representation of places, even when bad misrepresentations. Mostly because I ignore it and just look at the pretty cityscapes- that’s what makes me want to visit a place- footage. (I would go to Hong Kong in a heartbeat to check out kaiju bone temples if they were real. Not to join their crazy as fuck cult.)
I’m not okay with the lack of women actors in popular culture. This movie doesn’t have to be perfect to be a stepping stone for more female actor-based movies that can pass a freaking Bechdel test.
GO SEE THIS MOVIE!
Good to know that you don’t care about PoC at all.
Good to know that our countries are nothing but pretty backdrops to you and not, you know, actual places and homes for some of us, including my family. I’m not OK at all with Luc Besson flagrantly misrepresenting the country my parents came from and one I have strong ties with.
And yeah, actually, I want a movie with a female lead, but we can have that without stepping on PoC (especially WoC) in the process. Why should WoC have to pay the price of seeing members of their race killed onscreen and our countries reduced to scenery just so you can have your white heroine?
Think about that for a moment. There’s ‘perfect is the enemy of good’ and then there’s white feminist garbage that shuts out and degrades WoC.
If your feminism isn’t intersectional? It’s trash.
This just in: tumblr user ellerhinehart only cares about oppression when it happens her.
"How many movies are female lead this year? How many? Answer: not a whole lot. This bothers me!"
Obviously, we are all unhappy with the lack of female leads in the industry. What you and other white feminists don’t get is that when WOC say that we don’t support the film Lucy, you hear, “We don’t care about women! We don’t care about the little representation we, as women, get!” but all we’re really saying is, “Hey, this movie is racist. This movie perpetuates really terrible stereotypes and so it’s not something we support, even though it has a female protagonist.”
"And yes, it is important that countries aren’t whitewashed but I’m okay with fictional representation of places, even when bad misrepresentations."
Are you aware that even fictional representations of places have a severe impact on the way that audiences view foreign places? Are you aware that misrepresentations are what fosters stereotypes and the pigeonholing of an entire country/region/continent? ACCURATE REPRESENTATION IS EVERYTHING.
"Mostly because I ignore it and just look at the pretty cityscapes- that’s what makes me want to visit a place- footage."
That’s actually so gross. You just openly admitted that you turn a blind eye to everything that’s wrong with this film for the sake of your own cinematic experience. Of course YOU can ignore it, you aren’t apart of the group directly affected by it! YOU get to leave the theater thinking, “Wow, that was an empowering movie! Representation!!!! I love feminism!!!!!!” But others, they aren’t as lucky. They walk out feeling crummy because YET AGAIN, the media has managed to perpetuate these disgusting, racist tropes that were born out of this Western fear of “others.” They walk out feeling betrayed by others so-called feminists, LIKE YOU, who care about women!!!!!! but not really.
Just like tumblr user isanah said, if your feminism isn’t intersectional, it’s trash. If you’re not here for women of color, then you’re not here for women at all. You don’t get to pick and choose who gets positive representation. You don’t get to decide what’s racist and what’s not because you aren’t apart of the marginalized group that has to face it every.single.day. WOC are just as unhappy as you are about not having enough female leads, but you also need to acknowledge that we are also unhappy about a predominantly white industry turning yet another foreign country into some ~*exotic*~ playground to feed its weird fascination with othering people of color.
And another thing that’s got me angry:
When someone apart of the group of people that is being misrepresented tells you that they aren’t ok with their people, country, and culture being exotified and othered, you listen to them.
When someone who has lived experiences you will never be able to know that are directly related to the thing you are discussing, you listen to them.
So, when tumblr user isanah and many other Taiwanese women tell you that this movie is disgusting and racist, guess what? YOU LISTEN TO THEM.
How dare you try to speak over the voices that matter most in this discussion. How dare you try to silence isanah and others who understand the harm that this movie is capable of inflicting.
WOC don’t need your whitewashed feminism. We never have and we never will.
I actually went to see this movie without realizing what I was being taken to (my friend had bought the tickets). I never got to see the racist parts because I walked out in the first three minutes. The very first line is a research fail. “Life was given to us a billion years ago.” That’s news to me, considering the animal kingdom is only 600,000,000 years old, mammals are only 200,000,000 years old, primates are only 60,000,000 years old, and humans are only 200,000 years old. Especially egregious because the voiceover is paired with a shot of the eponymous “Lucy,” aka the first hominid, an Australopithecus woman. Who, y’know, existed 2.5 million years ago. Not a billion.
Even the premise of the movie is fucking stupid. If you only used 10% of your brain you would be in a coma.
Sorry, I know the science fail isn’t what this post is about, but when ellerhineheart’s main argument is that you should take what you get, that this movie is worth supporting…my question is…why?
Go support the Hunger Games if all you care about is a female lead. Not my cup of tea, but I hear Mockingjay is coming out soon.